Olivia Rodrigo sat down with Joe and Jon for her first in-depth conversation about her new album, you seem pretty sad for a girl so in love, out June 12. She discussed the many ways her creative process intersects with the extracurricular noise of pop superstardom, whether its managing relationship drama; accusations of pilfering songwriting gestures from Taylor Swift, her onetime idol; being targeted for the way she dresses; or her willingness to speak up about political and social causes in a way many of her peers won’t.
- 0:00 Intro!
- 3:54 Joe & Jon’s SNL fact check
- 7:34 Rewriting love songs after a breakup
- 12:35 How Olivia found the right sound for this album
- 19:49 Olivia’s songwriting process
- 23:23 Is Olivia ok with being the villain in her songs?
- 25:22 Cursing less on this album + working with Dan Nigro
- 30:35 Looking back on “Guts” + having compassion for her younger self
- 38:59 Joe & Jon’s favorite songs on the album
- 43:16 The challenge of writing love songs vs. breakup songs
- 47:05 Olivia’s thoughts on artists speaking out politically
- 50:41 Why Olivia did not attend this year’s Met Gala
- 52:26 How she reacts to “internet detective work”
- 54:10 Olivia responds to the babydoll dress controversy
- 56:13 Valuing her young fan base and girlhood as a shared experience
- 1:03:31 Olivia guesses which SATC characters Joe and Jon are
- 1:05:59 Popcast’s Lightning Round on her childhood, experiencing jealousy, and identifying as a “fan girl”
- 1:22:00 Snack Time! (with an allegedly shelf-stable dip)
